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    Not quite..

    “We cannot help remarking that it is very surprising that research in an area that depends so heavily on statistical methods has not been carried out in close collaboration with professional statisticians,”
    “That doesn’t mean that we agreed with all of their conclusions”
    “The chair has been challenged over his other interests. Lord Oxburgh is currently president of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and chairman of wind energy firm Falck Renewables.

    Critics say clean energy companies would benefit from policies to tackle climate change.”

    “Professor Hand pointed out that the translation of “messy data” into clear facts had caused problems.”

    “Some countries have many weather stations, while others have very few, and there are sizeable areas of the Earth with no surface measurements at all.

    “Unfortunately,” Professor Hand said, “when this research is [republished and] popularised, those caveats tend to be forgotten.”

    The panel noted that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was one of the organisations that had “oversimplified” the CRU data it used in its publications.

    They said the IPCC and others had neglected to highlight the discrepancy between direct and “proxy” measurements, such as the tree ring data often used to reconstruct past temperature changes.

    Professor Hand added that CRU had been “a little naïve” in not working more closely with statisticians.
    The report stated: “There would be mutual benefit if there were closer collaboration and interaction between CRU and a much wider scientific group outside the relatively small international circle of temperature specialists.”

    Dr Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, criticised the panel for producing a report that was “not even-handed” and appeared to be the product of a “rushed job”.

    He said: “This has produced a very superficial report. The panel should have taken more time to come to more balanced and trustworthy conclusions.

    “They should have heard evidence from critical researchers who have been working in the same field for many years.” /devilsadvocate

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    Haha, ik wist het wel: seven begint direct te cherrypicken. Ze citeert alle quotes van prof. Hand op één na:

    “Professor Hand said that the CRU scientists did not use “the best statistical tools for their studies” but that this had made not significant difference to their conclusions.”

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    Cherrypicken? Volgens mij gaat het in dit topic om om climategate-humor… ;)
    Een CO2opslagbedrijf onderzoek hierna laten doen.. zelfs de schijn van belangenverstrengeling vermijden is al teveel. / doofpotonderzoek..

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    Climategate draait om de gedachte dat wetenschappers oneerlijk bezig zijn geweest. Die mythe is ontkracht. Climategate blijkt een hoax te zijn.

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    @5 Carlos
    Er zijn 2 aparte zaken, dat weet je zeer goed.
    Zoals je wellicht hebt opgemerkt heb ik mij juist niet primair gefocused op het climategate emailgedoe, maar op het bredere al veel langer bestaande sceptische geluid. (de rol van de zon, kosmische straling Scafetta, van Geel, Lindzen, Cern, Kirkby, Svensmark, UHI, treedata, divergence problem) Ik typte al sceptische comments ver voor de cruhack. De hack heeft dat geluid luider laten horen omdat sceptici meer dan voorheen betrokken werden bij nieuws over global warming.
    Dat wetenschappers eerder ipcc grafieken hebben aangepast voor extra dramatisch effect staat ook vast, geef dat ook eens toe.
    Ik denk dat er sprake is van opwarming, maar (algemeen erkend) dat de data vaak brak is. Gelukkig is er (nog) geen mega opzet gevonden hiervoor, gefeliciteerd. Het idee dat sceptici pas bestaan via de emailhack is onjuist. De term climategate is ouder dan de datum vd cru-hack (lek! wikileaks et.)
    Daarbij komen ze in het geheel niet brandschool uit deze case, zie ook sargief.
    https://sargasso.nl/archief/2010/03/31/brits-parlementair-onderzoek-spreekt-klimaatonderzoeker-phil-jones-vrij/#comment-420760
    / jammer dat er geen elfstedentocht was, kutsneeuw..